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Honestly I don't know any statistics on that subject. I just told my opinion and experience from 2 friends with adaptive suspension.

Otherwise I am more old fashion guy so I tend to avoid new technology so don't take my opinion too seriously because that's just me and I am not saying that I am right. I think that more electronics and computers and more complicated stuff you have in the car more chances you have that eventually it will break something. Similar like this guy -https://youtu.be/pJzoyCPiAjg

I had one incident with modern technology about 2 years ago, not with BMW brand but with the other car brand which I won't mention.

I bought brand new car with adaptive cruise control and it had also some pedestrian assist or whatever is called for automatic car braking under 60km/h(if I remember speed correctly).

Before I went to job strangely warning light of that sistem appeared that I am too close to the car in front of me, but I was still relatively far from car in front of me(about 5m) and I was driving around 20km/h.

After I went from job I was driving on sunny empty road(no cars anywhere whatsoever) and I was driving relaxed around 45km/h and car by itself suddenly completely stopped to 0km/h. I had some sport brakes and I thought that car will break my neck and I could feel brains in my head because I didn't suspect so harsh braking since nobody and nothing was on road. When car braked by itself this collision light appeared again. Who knows why car braked and I was lucky that nobody was behind me... I remember that beside of the road was some black glove on the ground, maybe that's why car braked, I don't know.

So after that very unpleasant experience I tend to avoid modern technology in cars because neck hurt me for 1 month. I went to service the same day and they just reinstalled software of that sistem and I wrote to the car factory about this incident but they never responded so I sold car soon after that.

Less electronics I have, more confident I am. Also electronic speedometer I wouldn't like to have but there is no option without it in M40i.

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stickleback123 said:

BIRMA said:

When buying my RCF I arranged a test drive of both the Non AVS and the later AVS equipped car. The Lexus AVS adapts itself to how you drive and it works. Despite a large increase in my budget I'm glad I bought the later AVS equipped car.
I'd just sold my CL65 which had the super AMG adjustable suspension and it was sheer luxury on a long journey. I did the same journey to visit a client in the RCF and it nearly rivalled the CL65 in terms of comfort.

I've also had my Mini Clubvan fitted with a top of the range Tein active coil-over system and they have completely transformed the vehicle. This has a digital display read out and it changes suspension settings in milliseconds depending how you drive. In the mini and the RCF you can feel the vehicle tighten up when you put your foot down.

My reservation was cost of maintenance with such systems but one car is a Lexus so it won't go wrong and if it does Lexus will probably replace it with no hassle.
I ran a track-prepped RX7 with Tein suspension and never had a problem, it's been on my Mini for 3 years now completely trouble free.
In conclusion I really like this type of suspension.

I'd be interested in how you find these adjustable passive systems compared to the full active ABC hydraullic system in the CL65.

It'll be a little complicated because of tuning differences of course, but I never got tired of how completely flat my S600 stayed through the most outrageous maneuvers (and didn't pitch or dip under acceleration or if you stood on the brakes from 150MPH) despite having consistently fantastic ride quality. I hadn't realised how much those pitching and dipping motions were a subconcious indicator of what the car in front is up to until I followed a hard driven ABC equipped car that just got faster and slower without any body movements to give the game away.

The theoretical benefits of a truly active suspension system are huge, but I do often wonder how close modern passive systems can get without the weight and complexity of hydraulics.

I'd be interested in how you find these adjustable passive systems compared to the full active ABC hydraullic system in the CL65.It'll be a little complicated because of tuning differences of course, but I never got tired of how completely flat my S600 stayed through the most outrageous maneuvers (and didn't pitch or dip under acceleration or if you stood on the brakes from 150MPH) despite having consistently fantastic ride quality. I hadn't realised how much those pitching and dipping motions were a subconcious indicator of what the car in front is up to until I followed a hard driven ABC equipped car that just got faster and slower without any body movements to give the game away.The theoretical benefits of a truly active suspension system are huge, but I do often wonder how close modern passive systems can get without the weight and complexity of hydraulics.

As I mentioned in part of my reply I had a client Donnington Raceway and I regularly made the trip from Portsmouth to the East Midlands. Part of my journey was motorway and part twisty A roads.
Without doubt the CL65 was a magic carpet ride in both speed and handling.

The RCF with AVS certainly achieved/equalled the smooth ride on the motorways which was a big plus factor. As you say the flat cornering was something taken for grated with the CL65 system and I have to say that both systems I have on my cars when set at auto do replicate that so well I've not noticed any great departure from what I had got used to.
Judging by the number of gyros, yaw detectors etc in both systems I'm not really surprised at how good I think it works.
Both cars are nice and smooth at lower speeds or straight roads, then when you start to drive quickly particularly if it's a twisty road you can feel the suspension tighten up and both cars seem to corner flat with no noticeable dive or lift of the car during hard acceleration or braking.
I am completely sold on both systems with the added benefit of no or possibly very little maintenance costs. Both stay in auto mode as that seems to be most suited to me.

I was going to copy and paste the official Lexus technical report on the RCF AVS system but the link no longer works. Also if you go on to the Tein UK website and check out the EDFC Active Pro system you can see how it works. My Mini Clubvan was completely transformed by this system.

Having experienced and relished the system on the CL65 it was certainly a very hard act to follow.As I mentioned in part of my reply I had a client Donnington Raceway and I regularly made the trip from Portsmouth to the East Midlands. Part of my journey was motorway and part twisty A roads.Without doubt the CL65 was a magic carpet ride in both speed and handling.The RCF with AVS certainly achieved/equalled the smooth ride on the motorways which was a big plus factor. As you say the flat cornering was something taken for grated with the CL65 system and I have to say that both systems I have on my cars when set at auto do replicate that so well I've not noticed any great departure from what I had got used to.Judging by the number of gyros, yaw detectors etc in both systems I'm not really surprised at how good I think it works.Both cars are nice and smooth at lower speeds or straight roads, then when you start to drive quickly particularly if it's a twisty road you can feel the suspension tighten up and both cars seem to corner flat with no noticeable dive or lift of the car during hard acceleration or braking.I am completely sold on both systems with the added benefit of no or possibly very little maintenance costs. Both stay in auto mode as that seems to be most suited to me.I was going to copy and paste the official Lexus technical report on the RCF AVS system but the link no longer works. Also if you go on to the Tein UK website and check out the EDFC Active Pro system you can see how it works. My Mini Clubvan was completely transformed by this system.

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